981…Waiting in anticipation – Running Report page 23

John K – Posted June 12, 2019

This is a horrible read Stuart, good luck on getting it sorted…


Scubaregs – Posted June 12, 2019

I was told today that silverstone OPC have no connection whatsoever to Silverstone.


Stuart21UK – Posted June 12, 2019

On 6/12/2019 at 10:30 PM, Scubaregs said:
I was told today that silverstone OPC have no connection whatsoever to Silverstone.

correct, it’s in Towcester not Silverstone but still referred to as Silverstone OPC

or ‘that bunch of front bottoms’ if you talk to me about my roof


JohnSyn – Posted June 14, 2019

On 6/12/2019 at 11:16 PM, Stuart21UK said:
at bunch of front bottoms’ if you talk to me about my roof

And they speak so highly of you Stuart! Seriously sorry to hear about your latest woes, I hope you get them sorted quickly and at little cost.

Nil desperandum


Stuart21UK – Posted June 14, 2019

RPM cant book it in for close to 2 weeks (and my guess is it’llbe withem.for a week plus too)….its still sat on the driveway…had to use the Cayenne last night as can’t rely on it….if the weather was far better I’d sit it on the drive with roof down to dry it out….not sure what to do 🙁


fat haggis – Posted June 14, 2019

Can’t you hire a small industrial dehumidifier mate. One you can fit in the car. And get it full that will dry things a lot quicker.


mike597 – Posted June 14, 2019

You need a combination of a fan heater and and a dehumidifier in this weather to stand any chance of drying it out. You need to get heat into the carpet to draw out the moisture. If you can get it under cover so much the better. Better yet to take out the seats and carpet if you can. If you can’t then minimal effort is to get one of each of those and run them with the car as closed as possible for a couple of days.


John K – Posted June 14, 2019

Stealing somebody elses suggestion from a previous post…

What about Silica Gel Drying agent.

Pour the crystals into a couple of old socks, tie off and wedge under the seats to get the worst of the damp out?


Stuart21UK – Posted June 14, 2019

so just spent about an hour…

I couldn’t get the car roof into service mode (cant get the rear window past the rubber seal near the rear boot!?

I can’t figure out which hole is the drain tubes…..although prodding around with my cleaner tool resulted in a shed load more water draining from the bottom of the car…

I assume the output hole is covered by the plastic car undertray (which I’m not up to taking off)

…having done all that I looked at the area weher the ECU is under the passenger seat…now the day before yesterday it was damp but not overly drenched…fek me there was water enough I could have rinsed my feet in it (about 2-3 inches)…so I went about using a tea towel to try to soak it up, wring out then repeat…the amount of water was imense and I didnt seem to be making a dent in it (I think the car is now on a slight slope so as I drained some it ran to the lowest point again (where I’m draining it from)…

Her indoors had a blinding idea….Vax Machine in the shed!

Connecting it up and shoving the nozzle into the hole in the caprept by the ECU and 2 minutes later I have a full Vax…empty and go at it again and some more, I also used it to suck some water out of the carpet too…I finished up with the tea towel soaking the last bit (at least that I can get to).

So the car is drier, the drain holes ‘may’ be cleared (but as I cant be sure I got it or that I pushed any debris out that’s not a guarantee).

Bottom line is I dont have the time, the knowledge, a dry area to store the car and its still bloody raining so I have to book it in somewhere to sort it and potentially hire a car to ease the burden on the family vehicle!

Have some videos and pics I may post later which make for frightening viewing!


Scubaregs – Posted June 14, 2019

Ouch, not good mate.

Pour the crystals into a couple of old socks, tie off and wedge under the seats to get the worst of the damp out?


John K – Posted June 14, 2019

Again horrible reading, something must have got disconnected for that much water to be in the car…

Hopefully because it was rainwater and we have to hope Pork use good quality connectors there shouldn’t be too much corrosion in the electrics. Fingers crossed for you…

Pour the crystals into a couple of old socks, tie off and wedge under the seats to get the worst of the damp out?


Hewy – Posted June 14, 2019

Sorry to hear about your woes. I agree with @fat haggis with the heat and dehumidifier. Next best thing is to lay kitchen roll about. Under and over the carpet and it will soak up the majority of the damp and change as needed. Slightly damp kitchen roll means it is working so change it regularly. When you can, open the windows to get an air flow through the car. Hopefully the sun will the come out to help.


Stuart21UK – Posted June 15, 2019

On 6/14/2019 at 3:45 PM, Hewy said:
Sorry to hear about your woes. I agree with @fat haggis with the heat and dehumidifier. Next best thing is to lay kitchen roll about. Under and over the carpet and it will soak up the majority of the damp and change as needed. Slightly damp kitchen roll means it is working so change it regularly. When you can, open the windows to get an air flow through the car. Hopefully the sun will the come out to help.

yeah there is more water than the best kitchen roll could handle here!

So I just spent about an hour on the car…

I couldn’t get the car roof into service mode (I cant get the rear window past the rubber seal near the rear boot!?)

…see the pictures below, basically the rear of the roof (blue arrow) won’t push past the front edge of the boot surround/seal (yellow arrow).


Stuart21UK – Posted June 15, 2019

I can’t figure out which hole is the drain tubes…..although prodding around with my cleaner tool resulted in a shed load more water draining from the bottom of the car…the area marked with the blue arrow seemed to be the place but I couldn’t see an entry hole and vision was definitely impeded by not being able to get the roof in service mode I think.


Stuart21UK – Posted June 15, 2019

I assume the output hole under the car is covered by the plastic car undertray (which I’m not up to taking off).

The video below is after I moved the car and before I inserted the tube in the drain hole (or rather what I think is the drain hole!). The car is on a very slight slope.

Having inserted my tool the full 1 metre or so into the abyss I pulled it out and it was wet and slightly dirty and the same thing happened again i.e. water draining from the rear undertray.


Stuart21UK – Posted June 15, 2019

…having done all that I looked at the area where the ECU is under the passenger seat…now the day before yesterday it was damp but not overly drenched…holy cow there was water enough I could have rinsed my feet in it (about 2-3 inches)…

So I went about using a tea towel to try to soak it up, wringing it out then repeating…the amount of water was immense and I didnt seem to be making a dent in it (I think the car is now on a slight slope so as I drained some it ran to the lowest point again (where I’m draining it from)…

You can see in the picture below the depth of the water is brimming the underside of the carpet too!


Stuart21UK – Posted June 15, 2019

Her indoors had a blinding idea….the Vax Machine in the shed!

Connecting it up and shoving the nozzle into the hole in the carpet by the ECU and 2 minutes later I have a full Vax…I empty it and go at it again, it gets most of the liquid out in literally 1-2 minutes (I’d spent 15 minutes with the tea towels beforehand making little dent in the water level).

I also used the Vax to suck some water out of the carpet too…

I finished up with a fresh tea towel soaking up the last bit (at least that which I can get to).

So the car is drier, the drain holes ‘may‘ be cleared (but as I can’t be sure I got the correct place, or that I pushed any debris out, there’s no guarantee).

Bottom line is I don’t have the time, the knowledge, a dry area to store the car and it’s still bloody raining so I have to book it in somewhere to sort it and potentially hire a car to ease the burden on the family vehicle!

I also need to figure a way to make sure the car doesnt take on more water and as we no longer have a garage that could be problematic!


Stuart21UK – Posted June 15, 2019

follow up later on the 14th June 2019…

RPM told me that the way to resolve this is to clear the drain holes, remove the seat, the carpet and dry out everything (which takes time).

Once done, leak test the car by closing roof and spraying it with water.

All being well then refit everything BUT it may involve a new ECU (and more than one depending upon the options the car was specified with).

When asked how much in labour and costs for ECU etc he said they hadn’t really seen this on a 981 but have dealt with similar on 987 and 986’s….the last one was 16 1/2 hours labour and a single ECU for a total cost of £2300!


rowbos – Posted June 15, 2019

Good luck with this issue Stuart. What a nightmare!

Can you get the car into a friends garage or at least undercover somewhere during this rainy weather?


Gutley – Posted June 15, 2019

On 6/15/2019 at 12:17 AM, Stuart21UK said:
the last one was 16 1/2 hours labour and a single ECU for a total cost of £2300!

@tony_zx9r, was it the ECU in yours that went wrong? If so Stuart, you may be able to save some money here.

For a cover, I’d suggest https://www.stormcarcovers.co.uk/collections/porsche/products/porsche-car-covers-1?variant=610013149 or maybe the one @T24RES uses.


Gutley – Posted June 15, 2019

As for drying it out, when my 986 had a leak, i lifted the carpet, propped it up and just left a hairdryer pointing at the offending area on low heat for a couple if hours. Obviously take great care with electrical safety!


Gorsh – Posted June 15, 2019

@Stuart21UK very sorry to read about your water ingress problems. I haven’t had a leak but for my own knowledge I investigated the location of the drain holes when I bought my second 981 Boxster as it was 3 years old and I didn’t know it’s history.

You don’t need the roof in service mode, open it fully then close it a little until the side flaps lift up then you can get access. On your photo above looking down there the blue arrow is the right area, it’s quite a way down and often hidden by the convoluted tube you can see – if the hole isn’t visible with a torch try pushing the tube to one side. From your description and video it looks like you’ve at least cleared it enough for now – I tested mine by carefully pouring a jug of water directly into the area by the convoluted tube – this gives it much more water to clear than drips down the side of a closed roof – then if it pours readily out underneath it’s probably OK. When I tested mine the car was on a slight slope and water poured out behind the front wheel too so must have ran along above the undertray.

If you’ve stopped water getting in then that’s half the battle as you will get it dried out in time. Then RPM or whoever you choose can get the ECU sorted out and properly check the drains are clear. Hopefully you get it sorted soon and it not too expensive – good luck!


Stuart21UK – Posted June 15, 2019

thanks @Gorsh need to recheck it but that’s what I thought as far as the area in question

@Gutley is that the one you have? does it protect the paintwork (soft inside) but remain both waterproof and breathable?


Gutley – Posted June 15, 2019

@Gutley is that the one you have? does it protect the paintwork (soft inside) but remain both waterproof and breathable?

Yes and yes


Andy Mac – Posted June 15, 2019

@Stuart21UK glad you are managing to dry it out.

I remember now that Porsche (well Nottingham OPC) completely removed the ‘filters’ that come as part of the drain tubes when they re fitted mine – maybe something to bare in mind?

Few notes from my Jan 2017 post – invade any of it helps at all – what boxes ‘front systems? & part assist’ were damaged etc:

“Car collected from Nottingham OPC today – it has had pretty major work to (hopefully) cure the condensation issue.

I’ll list what I have been told by the (very thorough in explanation) tech (Jack).

Issue being condensation – cause – blocked rear drain tube (passenger side).

Apparently the rear drain tubes on the 981 (there is a drain pan under the ‘flaps’ either side of the roll bar – these connect to a drain tube) have filters on them near the bottom.

My drain tube filter had blocked on the passenger side – I’m told debris was several small leaves – water had backed up over time (some ran out / but the filters were sufficiently blocked to allow water to gradually back up and seep into the interior.

In my case into / under the passenger seat and carpet – I quote “Nemo would have been quite happy there…”.

Resulted in removal of the lower wing / sill side panels on both sides / then behind the intakes access to the tubes / also removal of the carpets / seat etc etc to dry.

Both control boxes (park assist and the “front systems” electronics were wet – and the connectors to them very corroded.

The wiring has been cut and new connectors added (porsche technical fix as the loom is huge to replace and would involve removal of so many parts).

So – New connectors / fixings / control boxes.

Apparently it all seemed to “work” (when wet) – I’d never experienced anything odd (apart from the condensation) but when dried it started to throw errors up – multiple dash lights etc and also resulted in the rear brake lightbeing replaced….(?).

Drain tubes were cleaned and filters removed completely.”

Hoping yours was caught quicker than mine 👌🏽